“Our scientists have been outliers in many ways throughout this crisis; a later lockdown and so on.
“So we have to get into how good our science is and that will be determined by how many people are dying.”
Morgan continued: “If it turns out we have the second worst record in the world, it would suggest, given that our scientists went a different way to many others, the the government position of following the science, is misguided.”
Mr Argar hit back: “Well, first of all, I don’t think you’re wrong at all Piers in saying it’s important that we understand the true toll this disease is taking on our fellow citizens, not just because of the science but because every one of those lives really matters and every one of those lives is a very human and personal story.